Used Boat Review: The S-2 9.2A/C
Well-built cruiser with aft and center cockpit versions
Well-built cruiser with aft and center cockpit versions
By Thom Burns
S2 Yachts was started in
1974 by an experienced fiberglass builder. The company grew rapidly, building a
successful fleet of race-oriented cruisers by the mid 1980’s. They diversified
into a few blue water cruisers with good performance. The 9.2A and 9.2C are
examples of these boats. They have more of a cruising three quarter keel than
their deeper fin keel, racer-cruiser sister ships such as the 9.1 and 7.9 which
are both highly competitive today. By 1989, the company converted totally to
powerboats, although it did build a run of its popular 7.9 models a few years
ago. The company is still prosperous and has been rumored off and on to be
considering a return to the sailing market.During the eighties, S2 earned a strong reputation for good quality boats. The company was founded by Leon Slikkers after he had sold his powerboat company, Slickcraft. As part of the sales agreement, he was precluded from the powerboat market for a number of years. There were no restrictions on sailboat building. So he built a new plant which was, at the time, a model for production-line efficiency. Among other things, the hulls were laid up in an enclosed, climate-controlled room, and they remained in molds until most of the interior was installed. This ensured that there was as little deformation of the basic hull molding as possible.
In the late 1970s, S2 did start building powerboats again, and soon established its Tiara line at the top end of the market. Slikkers’ business acumen, insight and bit of luck allowed him to buy his old powerboat line, Slickercraft, back from the conglomerate that owned it at a time of declining sales in the early 80s, at a fraction of its original sale price. Shortly thereafter S2 enjoyed the boom in powerboat buying which accompanied the decline in sailboat sales during the mid and late 80s.
From the start, Slikkers assembled an experienced crew of builders and sellers from the local area. At the time,
The company continues today with a strong crew, according to former dealers. Company personnel and a strong dealer network established a reputation for good relationships with S2 owners, a reputation which continues, even though the company is no longer in the sailboat business.
Former area dealers, such as Gary DeSantis at Sailor’s World on
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The boat was built in two configurations, from 1977 to 1987. The 9.2C was a center-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 427. The 9.2A was the aft-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 520.
The 9.2 was designed by Arthur Edmunds, who was S2’s "in-house" designer. Beginning in 1981, S2 built a number of racing-oriented cruisers designed by the
The 9.2 design has short overhangs, a relatively flat sheer, a long fin keel, and spade rudder. The boats are attractive, and the aft-cockpit model has pleasing proportions. The center-cockpit model is a little boxy looking because of the relatively short overall length for the center cockpit aft cabin design. It is better looking than some other smaller center cockpit boats because it has three levels of deck and cockpit.
The conventional looks of the 9.2 keep it in style which along with the builders reputation seem to keep the boats holding their value pretty well. Shallow-draft keels were a popular option, reducing the draft from 4’11’ to 3’11’. According to DeSantis, most models sold in the midwest were the deeper keel which he personally prefers. The deeper keel doesn’t seem excessive for most waters.
The rigs were identical on all versions, The lead ballast is internal. S2 did a good job of embedding and sealing the lead in the keel cavity which can be a source of leaks on older externally mounted keels. According to DeSantis, this was a major difference between builders of that era.
Sailing Performance
This boat is the cruising, small, bluewater model and shouldn’t be confused
with the 9.1 which swept the MORC nationals with a first, second and third
finish when it was introduced. Another well sailed 9.1 won its division in the
Trans-Superior. This boat has a much longer fin keel which is not as deep. It
also makes it more seakindly for cruising. The 9.2 came with a deck-stepped
Kenyon spar and North sails as standard, later with Hall or Offshore spars. The
rigging and other sailing hardware was good enough in quality that little
re-rigging or upgrading is likely to be needed.The 9.2 typically came with internal halyards, reef lines and outhaul, a good Harken mainsheet traveler, Lewmar #8 halyard winches, and two-speed Lewmar #30s for the jib sheets. A boat this well equipped needs very little in upgrades. The bad news is that 1999 buyers are unlikely to find extensive upgrades to sails, furlers, winches, etc. done by previous owners. As this equipment approaches the middle to end of its second decade some of it will have to be replaced. It won’t last forever.
The boat I sailed performed very well on close, beam and broad reaches. It was a cruising boat close-hauled and it feels a little tender sometimes. Reef early when the wind builds.
She’s not a fast boat by contemporary standards but when compared to some other cruisers she’s quick. The 9.2 carries a PHRF rating around 180 seconds per mile (six seconds slower for the shoal-keel), which is six seconds per mile slower than a Pearson 30 and 12 to 15 seconds per mile slower than the Catalina 30 with a tall rig. In contrast, the 9.2s racing-oriented sister, the S2 9.1, a 30-footer, rates 50 seconds per mile faste at 140. The important thing is that both boats will sail to their numbers.
The boat is easy to sail, with a balanced sail plan. The running rigging, deck hardware and overall deck layout are convenient and functional. The deck is easy to move around. Attention to detail in the deck, anchor well, bow fittings, cleats, and halyards runs are well done.
Performance Under Power
A few of the 1977/1978 boats were sold with an Atomic 4 gas engine. After
1979, diesels were installed. Through 1984, the engines were 12 hp or 15 hp
Yanmars, or 12 hp Volvos. In 1985, a Yanmar 23 was optional.The Atomic 4 was a good engine for the boat, as was the Yanmar 23. For a 10,000 pound boat, 12 to 15 hp should be adequate by traditional standards, but many sailors seem to want a little more. The Yanmar 23 in the boat I sailed seemed like alot of engine. In calm water it would hit hull speed at 1800 or 1900
Interior
The interior was undoubtedly the strong selling point of the boat. The below
decks finish is attractive. There’s about as much usable room below as you
could get without making the hull significantly larger. S2 was one of the first sailboat builders to use fabric as a hull liner, and it became almost a trademark of S2 interiors. The fabric is a neutral-colored polypropylene, treated to be mildew resistant. Having looked at several used S2 models, I believe the fabric works well. Many of the 90’s builders have copied the approach. It is contact-cemented to the hull, and it holds up amazingly well, absorbing virtually no water. It is quite resistant to mildew and stains. It is maintained with a good, compact wet/dry vacuum cleaner.
The rest of the interior has teak veneer plywood, Formica, and solid teak trim. The workmanship is good. Layouts changed little throughout the production of the boats. The aft-cockpit model is conventional, with a V-berth, a large head and hanging locker, a large dinette/settee with a settee opposite, and an L-shaped galley with a chart area/quarter berth opposite. There’s adequate stowage under the berths and decent outside stowage in the lazarettes.
The center-cockpit model moves the main cabin forward and the head aft, near to and partially underneath the center cockpit. The galley is opposite the head, running lengthwise down the port side of the cabin and partially under the cockpit. The aft-cabin is roomy, with an athwartship double berth and good locker space. The shortcoming of the center cockpit is that there is virtually no outside storage.
Choosing between the center and aft cockpit is largely a matter of personal preference. With children, or two couples cruising, the aft cabin is hard to beat for livability.
The interiors are well designed and executed. Little major work or upgrading should be necessary on most used boats. Many people will want to replace the alcohol stoves on earlier models, perhaps add refrigeration and perform the normal long-term maintenance or re-upholstering. The interiors should need little major attention.
Conclusions
The S2s were well-built. Whereas other production companies frequently
cheapened or upgraded models from year to year to find a marketing niches, S2
made boats to sell near the high end of the production boat market, and kept
the quality at a consistent level. I would avoid the shallow draft version on
both performance and likely tenderness grounds unless I was going to sail a
great deal in shallow areas such as Florida Sound, the The 9.2s have maintained their value about as well as any 30 footer according to local brokers. S2 owners generally believe they have a good product, and they’ll probably be harder to dicker with than many eager sellers of other boats in the used market.
Thom publishes Northern Breezes and SailingBreezes.com. Thanks to Gary DeSantis, Sailor’s World,
Sailor’s World: 612-475-3443
Practical Sailor: 800-829-9087
I just purchased a 1984 S2 9.2C and am very happy with the quality of build and interior design. Looks like a much newer boat. it's lying in Va. Hopefully getting out of the 2013 Blizzard here in Massachusetts soon to test her out. If any S2 owners clubs for this model out there please contact me or send me a link
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ReplyDeleteI'm helping a widow sell her 1977 9.2C and would love any relevant S2 manuals for the boat. I have manuals for every component, but nothing S2 related. In previous searches, I get linked to a download library that's a scam. Anybody got a pdf?
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Brian
I'm looking at an S2 9.2C made in 87. I havent found any identification on the engine to figure out which model it is. Do you know if there is a database by serial number? I think it is boat 423. Thanks and awesome resource!
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